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	<title>Comments on: HowTo Eliminate Wordpress Trackback Comment And Pingback Spam</title>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, there is a sessions bug with the commenting on here which is what you experienced. I have 2 solutions for it, but no time to implement right now while in the middle of my current project. I was kind of hoping one of those solutions would manifest itself as a full blown wordpress plugin that I would release since most are not technical enough to implement this themselves in some cases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, there is a sessions bug with the commenting on here which is what you experienced. I have 2 solutions for it, but no time to implement right now while in the middle of my current project. I was kind of hoping one of those solutions would manifest itself as a full blown wordpress plugin that I would release since most are not technical enough to implement this themselves in some cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Eli the Computer Guy</title>
		<link>http://robmalon.com/howto-eliminate-wordpress-trackback-comment-and-pingback-spam/#comment-13145</link>
		<dc:creator>Eli the Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try #2
Your solution makes a hell of a lot of sense, except that after answering your math question your script said I was wrong and then lost my comment.  Lets try this again and seee how it works... Maybe a javascript that won't allow you to submit would work better</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try #2<br />
Your solution makes a hell of a lot of sense, except that after answering your math question your script said I was wrong and then lost my comment.  Lets try this again and seee how it works&#8230; Maybe a javascript that won&#8217;t allow you to submit would work better</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Dorkin @ BiggerPockets</title>
		<link>http://robmalon.com/howto-eliminate-wordpress-trackback-comment-and-pingback-spam/#comment-12927</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Dorkin @ BiggerPockets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great tips, Rob.  I wasn't aware of the trackback validation plugin and I'm going to test it out thanks to you.  Much appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great tips, Rob.  I wasn&#8217;t aware of the trackback validation plugin and I&#8217;m going to test it out thanks to you.  Much appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Augie</title>
		<link>http://robmalon.com/howto-eliminate-wordpress-trackback-comment-and-pingback-spam/#comment-12913</link>
		<dc:creator>Augie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo.

So long as the bots aren't reading and understanding the CSS commands, you should be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo.</p>
<p>So long as the bots aren&#8217;t reading and understanding the CSS commands, you should be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://robmalon.com/howto-eliminate-wordpress-trackback-comment-and-pingback-spam/#comment-12912</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you're thinking of wrapping the input tag with a div that has its style set to display:none?

That would work too however I've never used any form bot software to tell how many of them it would catch up. Bots defiantly have issues with javascript, but I dont know about CSS. It would help if the CSS style specifying the display:none was in an external CSS sheet. Then they'd have to use/emulate a browser to find out that its hidden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re thinking of wrapping the input tag with a div that has its style set to display:none?</p>
<p>That would work too however I&#8217;ve never used any form bot software to tell how many of them it would catch up. Bots defiantly have issues with javascript, but I dont know about CSS. It would help if the CSS style specifying the display:none was in an external CSS sheet. Then they&#8217;d have to use/emulate a browser to find out that its hidden.</p>
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		<title>By: Augie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, it's a honeypot. Didn't know there was a wordpress plugin. I may not have explained the hidden thing clearly. 

The input type would not be "hidden" but a regular text box. In order to trick the bot, you hide it with CSS or ASP, PHP or what-have-you. So it's a normal text field, just hidden from human eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, it&#8217;s a honeypot. Didn&#8217;t know there was a wordpress plugin. I may not have explained the hidden thing clearly. </p>
<p>The input type would not be &#8220;hidden&#8221; but a regular text box. In order to trick the bot, you hide it with CSS or ASP, PHP or what-have-you. So it&#8217;s a normal text field, just hidden from human eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kind of reminds me of the honeypot plugin for wordpress:
http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-honeypot/

I think it would be easy for a bot to detect a "hidden" string in the input tag. They want to act like users so I dont think that strategy would trip up most bots. Its all about bettering your odds though. Good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kind of reminds me of the honeypot plugin for wordpress:<br />
<a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-honeypot/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/wordpress.org');" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-honeypot/</a></p>
<p>I think it would be easy for a bot to detect a &#8220;hidden&#8221; string in the input tag. They want to act like users so I dont think that strategy would trip up most bots. Its all about bettering your odds though. Good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Augie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi-

I have another successful method that I've employed on a couple of site.  This is not so much for pingback spammers, but is useful for your standard form spam-bots; those are the bots that run around the internet and submit garbage into your forms.  I never quite understood why someone would do that... but anyway.  My current blog doesn’t have this installed yet, but it’s my next order of business.

The effect is that you basically place hidden fields into your form that a bot will fill out.  The hidden fields are named to trick the bot with names like "email" or "url."  When you process the form, if these hidden fields have a value, then you know the form was filled out by a bot, as a human would not have seen them, and would not have filled them out.

The method is pretty simple.  Add an additional input field into your form.  Give this the id and name of something like email, url or comment.  Then take one of the fields that is normally part of the form, and rename it to something else, like "favorite_color."  The id of favorite_color is actually going to be their url, for example, so in the form processor, you will also need to change the id from url to favorite_color.  Next you will need to hide the "url" form field with CSS.  Lastly, you will need to create an exception check in the form processor to see if the hidden field has a value.  If it does, then we know it's spam, because a normal person wouldn't see the field, and thus, would not fill it out, while a bot would see it and fill it out, thinking it's the url field.

It sounds complicated, but once it's completed, you won't have to inconvenience your real readers with math questions or captcha boxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi-</p>
<p>I have another successful method that I&#8217;ve employed on a couple of site.  This is not so much for pingback spammers, but is useful for your standard form spam-bots; those are the bots that run around the internet and submit garbage into your forms.  I never quite understood why someone would do that&#8230; but anyway.  My current blog doesn’t have this installed yet, but it’s my next order of business.</p>
<p>The effect is that you basically place hidden fields into your form that a bot will fill out.  The hidden fields are named to trick the bot with names like &#8220;email&#8221; or &#8220;url.&#8221;  When you process the form, if these hidden fields have a value, then you know the form was filled out by a bot, as a human would not have seen them, and would not have filled them out.</p>
<p>The method is pretty simple.  Add an additional input field into your form.  Give this the id and name of something like email, url or comment.  Then take one of the fields that is normally part of the form, and rename it to something else, like &#8220;favorite_color.&#8221;  The id of favorite_color is actually going to be their url, for example, so in the form processor, you will also need to change the id from url to favorite_color.  Next you will need to hide the &#8220;url&#8221; form field with CSS.  Lastly, you will need to create an exception check in the form processor to see if the hidden field has a value.  If it does, then we know it&#8217;s spam, because a normal person wouldn&#8217;t see the field, and thus, would not fill it out, while a bot would see it and fill it out, thinking it&#8217;s the url field.</p>
<p>It sounds complicated, but once it&#8217;s completed, you won&#8217;t have to inconvenience your real readers with math questions or captcha boxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that case, it still would be good to have both, but just reverse the order in which the code executes. So far, I haven't run into the problem you've mentioned, but I might write a howto/plugin and post on how to do what you're asking for sometime :).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that case, it still would be good to have both, but just reverse the order in which the code executes. So far, I haven&#8217;t run into the problem you&#8217;ve mentioned, but I might write a howto/plugin and post on how to do what you&#8217;re asking for sometime :).</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I shouldn't, but these days I just rely on my spam filter (Akismet) to catch it all. I used to use Simple Trackback Validation on a several of the blogs I have, but it stopped stuff from going directly to the spam filter and actually caused me more work when I had to delete the trackbacks.

I've finally set Akismet to delete anything older than 30 days automatically, and I almost never check the spam section of my blogs anymore.

I'm sure I'm running a risk of missing a good comment, but the time savings has been worth it. Not to mention, I've quit burning my eyes with some of the filth that I used to have to skim through before deleting the spam comments and trackbacks manually.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I shouldn&#8217;t, but these days I just rely on my spam filter (Akismet) to catch it all. I used to use Simple Trackback Validation on a several of the blogs I have, but it stopped stuff from going directly to the spam filter and actually caused me more work when I had to delete the trackbacks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve finally set Akismet to delete anything older than 30 days automatically, and I almost never check the spam section of my blogs anymore.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m running a risk of missing a good comment, but the time savings has been worth it. Not to mention, I&#8217;ve quit burning my eyes with some of the filth that I used to have to skim through before deleting the spam comments and trackbacks manually.</p>
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